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1 Phaedo of Elis belonged to that famous Socratic band and was on terms of close intimacy with Socrates and Plato. 2 His name was given by Plato to that inspired dialogue of his on the immortality of the soul. 3 This Phaedo, though a slave, was of noble person and intellect,47 and according to some writers, in his boyhood was driven to prostitution by his master, who was a pander. 4 We are told that Cebes the Socratic, at Socrates' earnest request, bought Phaedo and gave him the opportunity of studying philosophy. 5 And he afterwards became a distinguished philosopher, whose very tasteful discourses on Socrates are in circulation.
6 There were not a few other slaves too afterwards who became famous philosophers, 7 among them that Menippus whose works Marcus Varro emulated48 in those satires which others call "Cynic," but he himself, "Menippean."49
8 Besides these, Pompylus, the slave of the Peripatetic Theophrastus, and the slave of the Stoic Zeno who was called Persaeus, and the slave of Epicurus whose name was Mys, were philosophers of repute.50
9 Diogenes the Cynic also served as a slave, but he was a freeborn man, who was sold into slavery. When Xeniades of Corinth wished to buy him and asked whether he knew any trade, Diogenes replied: "I know how to govern free men."51 10 Then Xeniades, in admiration of his answer, bought him, set him free, and entrusting to him his own children, said: "Take my children to govern."
But as to the well-known philosopher Epictetus, the fact that he too was a slave is too fresh in our memory to need to be committed to writing, as if it had been forgotten.
Phaedo di Elis è appartenuto a quella fascia famosa di socratici ed era in una condizione di intimità con Platone e Socrate. Il suo nome fu dato da Platone ispirato da quel dialogo sull'immortalità dell'anima. Questo Phaedo, benchè uno schiavo, fu una persona nobile e di grande intelletto, e secondo alcuni filosofi nella sua giovinezza fu giudato alla prostituzione dal padre, che era un intermediario. Noi dicemmo che Cebes il socratico, di fronte alla richiesta sincera di Socrate comprò Phaedo e gli diede l’opportunità di studiare filosofia. E lui successivamente diventò un filosofo distinto, di cui i discorsi di buongusto su Socrate erano in circolazione. Non ci furono troppo in seguito alcun’altri schiavi diventato filosofi famosi (letteralmente), tra loro quel famoso Menippus i quali lavori Marco Varro emulò in quella satira che gli altri chiamavano “cinico” ma egli stesso “in Menippean”. Oltre a questi Pompylus, lo schiavo del Peripatetic Theophrastus e lo schiavo dello stoico Zenone il quale lo chiamò Persaeus, e lo schiavo di Epicureo che lo chiamò Mys, erano filosofi di fama. Dionee il cinico si era anche servito da schiavo, ma era un uomo nato libero che era stato venduto in schiavitù. Quando Xeniades of Corinth desideroso di comprarlo e gli chiese se conoscesse il commercio, Diogene gli rispose: “io so come governare un uomo libero” . Poi Xeniades, ammirato nella risposta, lo comprò, lo fece libero e affidò a lui i suo bambini, disse: “prendi i miei bambini sotto il tuo governo” . Ma come al filosofo ben noto Epictetus, il fatto che egli fosse stato schiavo è fresco nella nostra memoria, bisogna essere impegnati nella scrittura, come se sia stato dimenticato.
6 There were not a few other slaves too afterwards who became famous philosophers, 7 among them that Menippus whose works Marcus Varro emulated48 in those satires which others call "Cynic," but he himself, "Menippean."49
8 Besides these, Pompylus, the slave of the Peripatetic Theophrastus, and the slave of the Stoic Zeno who was called Persaeus, and the slave of Epicurus whose name was Mys, were philosophers of repute.50
9 Diogenes the Cynic also served as a slave, but he was a freeborn man, who was sold into slavery. When Xeniades of Corinth wished to buy him and asked whether he knew any trade, Diogenes replied: "I know how to govern free men."51 10 Then Xeniades, in admiration of his answer, bought him, set him free, and entrusting to him his own children, said: "Take my children to govern."
But as to the well-known philosopher Epictetus, the fact that he too was a slave is too fresh in our memory to need to be committed to writing, as if it had been forgotten.
Phaedo di Elis è appartenuto a quella fascia famosa di socratici ed era in una condizione di intimità con Platone e Socrate. Il suo nome fu dato da Platone ispirato da quel dialogo sull'immortalità dell'anima. Questo Phaedo, benchè uno schiavo, fu una persona nobile e di grande intelletto, e secondo alcuni filosofi nella sua giovinezza fu giudato alla prostituzione dal padre, che era un intermediario. Noi dicemmo che Cebes il socratico, di fronte alla richiesta sincera di Socrate comprò Phaedo e gli diede l’opportunità di studiare filosofia. E lui successivamente diventò un filosofo distinto, di cui i discorsi di buongusto su Socrate erano in circolazione. Non ci furono troppo in seguito alcun’altri schiavi diventato filosofi famosi (letteralmente), tra loro quel famoso Menippus i quali lavori Marco Varro emulò in quella satira che gli altri chiamavano “cinico” ma egli stesso “in Menippean”. Oltre a questi Pompylus, lo schiavo del Peripatetic Theophrastus e lo schiavo dello stoico Zenone il quale lo chiamò Persaeus, e lo schiavo di Epicureo che lo chiamò Mys, erano filosofi di fama. Dionee il cinico si era anche servito da schiavo, ma era un uomo nato libero che era stato venduto in schiavitù. Quando Xeniades of Corinth desideroso di comprarlo e gli chiese se conoscesse il commercio, Diogene gli rispose: “io so come governare un uomo libero” . Poi Xeniades, ammirato nella risposta, lo comprò, lo fece libero e affidò a lui i suo bambini, disse: “prendi i miei bambini sotto il tuo governo” . Ma come al filosofo ben noto Epictetus, il fatto che egli fosse stato schiavo è fresco nella nostra memoria, bisogna essere impegnati nella scrittura, come se sia stato dimenticato.
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1 Phaedon Elidensis ex cohorte illa Socratica fuit Socratique et Platoni per fuit familiaris. 2 Eius nomini Plato librum illum divinum de immortalitate animae dedit. 3 Is Phaedon servus fuit forma atque ingenio liberali et, ut quidam scripserunt, a lenone domino puer ad merendum coactus. 4 Eum Cebes Socraticus hortante Socrate emisse dicitur habuisseque in philosophiae disciplinis. 5 Atque is postea philosophus inlustris fuit, sermonesque eius de Socrate admodum elegantes leguntur. 6 Alii quoque non pauci servi fuerunt, qui post philosophi clari exstiterunt. 7 Ex quibus ille Menippus fuit, cuius libros M. Varro in saturis aemulatus est, quas alii "cynicas", ipse appellat "Menippeas". 8 Sed et Theophrasti Peripatetici servus Pompylus et Zenonis Stoici servus, qui Persaeus vocatus est, et Epicuri, cui Mys nomen fuit, philosophi non incelebres vixerunt. 9 Diogenes etiam Cynicus servitutem servivit. Sed is ex libertate in servitutem venum ierat. Quem cum emere vellet Xeniades Korinthios, ecquid artificii novisset, percontatus "novi" inquit Diogenes "hominibus liberis imperare". 10 Tum Xeniades responsum eius demiratus emit et manu emisit filiosque suos ei tradens: "accipe" inquit "liberos meos, quibus imperes". De Epicteto autem philosopho nobili, quod is quoque servus fuit, recentior est memoria, quam ut scribi quasi oblitteratum debuerit.
1 Phaedo of Elis belonged to that famous Socratic band and was on terms of close intimacy with Socrates and Plato. 2 His name was given by Plato to that inspired dialogue of his on the immortality of the soul. 3 This Phaedo, though a slave, was of noble person and intellect,47 and according to some writers, in his boyhood was driven to prostitution by his master, who was a pander. 4 We are told that Cebes the Socratic, at Socrates' earnest request, bought Phaedo and gave him the opportunity of studying philosophy. 5 And he afterwards became a distinguished philosopher, whose very tasteful discourses on Socrates are in circulation.
6 There were not a few other slaves too afterwards who became famous philosophers, 7 among them that Menippus whose works Marcus Varro emulated48 in those satires which others call "Cynic," but he himself, "Menippean."49
8 Besides these, Pompylus, the slave of the Peripatetic Theophrastus, and the slave of the Stoic Zeno who was called Persaeus, and the slave of Epicurus whose name was Mys, were philosophers of repute.50
9 Diogenes the Cynic also served as a slave, but he was a freeborn man, who was sold into slavery. When Xeniades of Corinth wished to buy him and asked whether he knew any trade, Diogenes replied: "I know how to govern free men."51 10 Then Xeniades, in admiration of his answer, bought him, set him free, and entrusting to him his own children, said: "Take my children to govern."
But as to the well-known philosopher Epictetus, the fact that he too was a slave is too fresh in our memory to need to be committed to writing, as if it had been forgotten.
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1 Phaedo of Elis belonged to that famous Socratic band and was on terms of close intimacy with Socrates and Plato. 2 His name was given by Plato to that inspired dialogue of his on the immortality of the soul. 3 This Phaedo, though a slave, was of noble person and intellect,47 and according to some writers, in his boyhood was driven to prostitution by his master, who was a pander. 4 We are told that Cebes the Socratic, at Socrates' earnest request, bought Phaedo and gave him the opportunity of studying philosophy. 5 And he afterwards became a distinguished philosopher, whose very tasteful discourses on Socrates are in circulation.
6 There were not a few other slaves too afterwards who became famous philosophers, 7 among them that Menippus whose works Marcus Varro emulated48 in those satires which others call "Cynic," but he himself, "Menippean."49
8 Besides these, Pompylus, the slave of the Peripatetic Theophrastus, and the slave of the Stoic Zeno who was called Persaeus, and the slave of Epicurus whose name was Mys, were philosophers of repute.50
9 Diogenes the Cynic also served as a slave, but he was a freeborn man, who was sold into slavery. When Xeniades of Corinth wished to buy him and asked whether he knew any trade, Diogenes replied: "I know how to govern free men."51 10 Then Xeniades, in admiration of his answer, bought him, set him free, and entrusting to him his own children, said: "Take my children to govern."
But as to the well-known philosopher Epictetus, the fact that he too was a slave is too fresh in our memory to need to be committed to writing, as if it had been forgotten.
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